so far ewido has 360,000 signitures in its database. I own your Ad-Aware SE product and i tryed their product and frankly they have everything you guys have (scan, its own version of an ad-watch) but its detection is way better. Frankly you need to get some better detection on ad-aware se because you are getting passed by companies wanting "The best Anti malware program on the market". You need more detection rules. Will you be working on this, can't you copy their signiture detection system. Because it is really Ridculous that Ad-Aware is getting beat by Ewido Anti Malware and Spyware Doctor (im not basing this on how many people use it, im basing on detection of malware)

Nick. Even if you discount the fact that Ewido has so many signatures, and base it on sample sets, there is no gaurantee that the sample set you have is representive of what is really out there in the wild, and how much of it there is. I have seen countless reviews where Ad-Aware scores lower than some, then sores higher than some in others. Indeed, I saw Counterpsy score an 80% where Ad-Aware had 70%. The review was totally flawed. To begin with, the reviewer (PC Magazine I believe), used a random sample set of 5-6 samples!!!... now... anyone who has studied statistics will know that I much larger number of tests than 5 files would be needed to establish how the anti-spyware solutions rate against one-another. In this case, Counterspy came out on top... but that could just be pure chance... if they had 4 of these files hashed, then they would be getting a very high score... however, that could be the same for not so good scanners... the fact that they, by chance, had some of those files hashed meant that they would get a great score. The real proof of this "reviewing method flaw" is if we do a scan of malware files we obtain every week with say Counterspy or Microsoft. They only manage to detect around 40% of our outgoing detected content when we update. So they don't detect some stuff we do, and vice versa....

This explains the fact that you have a certain number of people posting "Ad-Aware Sux! it didnt find my malware when Counterspy did!!", and the others posting "Thankyou Ad-Aware! Counterspy didnt get this, but you did!"

.....And this means that until someone can come up with the ABSOLUTE definitive collection (which is very difficult), then basically these reviews are flawed.... badly flawed.... You need a large and representitive collection, then take a number of random sets. Test with each scanner, and establish through some clever statistical analysis which scanner REALLY is the best....

If people on the forum are interested in the weekly statistics, then I will be happy to do a counterspy / microsoft scan of our malware files per week and post these statistics.... it may be of interest

I hope this explains a few things

Yes well, ewido found 100 tracking cookies that leached on my computer and 1 trojan dropper.

I know that its hard to get signatures, but that is really ridiculous. Now i use spyblaster activeX/cookie blocker + mozilla firefox so i only get a cookie or 2 now and then but i really think that finding a trojan and some 100 + tracking cookies really is disturbing. the trojan was called Sp00n3r. I will submit them seeing how all of them are in my ewido quarantine. Hopefully by doing this i will be helping you guys improve your program.

In fairness, Ad-Aware SE is not an anti-trojan.

You have the Plus version, so I can understand some of your questions about the cookies, although Ad-Aware SE's pop-up blocker may not prevent the installation of tracking cookies. The free Personal version doesn't have that capability.

Adding SpywareBlaster is an excellent idea.

Nick. Your one trojan, is but one example. What about the trojan that ad-aware detects and Ewido doesn't?

Thank you for the file submission - but please submit it to the other vendors aswell... As long as users keep submitting files, then it helps the Anti-Spyware vendors to offer the best protection...

//Steve

Sp00n3r seems to be a username: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Sp00n...G=Google+Search

There doesn't seem to be any reference to a trojan by that name: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=S...jan&btnG=Search

You say Ewido detected it? I can't find it in their database ...

wow thats weird!


and no, id rather just submit it to lavasoft seeing how i bought your product and i don't want to take the time to improve other companies.

i bought lavasoft for a reason, i know your one of the best, but i use ewido as a second opinion..

Indeed it is ...

anyway i compressed a copy of the quarantine folder into win rar. A very LARGE winrar folder of compressed tracking cookies and a trojan Sp00n3r will be arriving at lavasoft soon.