last available update problems Options

[MP50]

Hi I know that Ad-Aware SE is not supported anymore but I can't use the new one on windows ME 98.

When I try and update Ad-Aware SE to the last available update, it says, error can't read file and asks me to try again, why is this?

Have lavasoft removed all the updates for SE, from it's servers?

[MP50]

No one going to bother replying ?

Well I know some software that has ended but you can still get the last updates for it, so why not with Ad-Aware SE ?

Some people still use 98/Me you know. Don't know why LS could not of just made it work with 98/Me but with less fetures than for XP/2000/vista.

Shame on LS. Shakes head.

[gelert]

No one going to bother replying ?

S'trewth - give us a chance eh...?

The last Defs File Update known to work with ME was SE1R247 13 May 2008.

If you want / need a copy, you'll have to find someone with a copy of it, and ask them nicely to email it to you...
LavaSoft don't have a database of old Defs Files, especially one which is over 2 months old.

Then you'll have to install it manually.
http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?showforum=86 has a thread with details of how to install manually.

This post has been edited by gelert: Jul 26 2008, 09:07 AM

[papajoe]

The last Defs File Update known to work with ME was SE1R247 13 May 2008.

If you want / need a copy, you'll have to find someone with a copy of it, and ask them nicely to email it to you...
LavaSoft don't have a database of old Defs Files, especially one which is over 2 months old.

I need a copy of the SE1R247 5/13 defs. I'm asking as nicely as I know how. Could someone/anyone please email them to me?



This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 26 2008, 12:33 PM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. added quote tags for clarity. Casey

[Jaheira]

I need a copy of the SE1R247 5/13 defs. I'm asking as nicely as I know how. Could someone/anyone please email them to me?

Why would you want it!? It's a file over 2 months out-of-date!

Just download and use one of the existing pieces of anti-malware software that still supports ME/98 and then you'll have up-to-date protection!

ie
Spybot S&D
SuperAntiSpyware

[MP50]

S'trewth - give us a chance eh...?

The last Defs File Update known to work with ME was SE1R247 13 May 2008.

If you want / need a copy, you'll have to find someone with a copy of it, and ask them nicely to email it to you...
LavaSoft don't have a database of old Defs Files, especially one which is over 2 months old.

Then you'll have to install it manually.
http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?showforum=86 has a thread with details of how to install manually.

Thanks for your reply.

I did a search on google and think I have found the file but this one is SE1R246. Some have said there was problems with SE1R247 or something, so this one is best.

Here http://@@@@@@/16UPGXSZVDBU/defs246.zip

To the person who wonders why people want an out of date file, it's because we still want to use Ad-Aware SE for old OS, there is nothing wrong with that. Also some of these free spyware removers are spyware. LS is a respected brand and would not do anything bad, i hope lol

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 28 2008, 12:42 AM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. munged address. Casey

[papajoe]

Thanks for your reply.

I did a search on google and think I have found the file but this one is SE1R246. Some have said there was problems with SE1R247 or something, so this one is best.

Here http://@@@@@@/16UPGXSZVDBU/defs246.zip

To the person who wonders why people want an out of date file, it's because we still want to use Ad-Aware SE for old OS, there is nothing wrong with that. Also some of these free spyware removers are spyware. LS is a respected brand and would not do anything bad, i hope lol

Thanks for finding it for me AND thanks for replying to that other post. I couldn't have put it better myself. I had followed his or her advice and installed SuperAntiSpyware, but it kept locking me up halfway through a scan. I had to remove it. Thanks also to Gelert for getting the SE1R247 5/13 defs for me. You both are aces. I'm grateful to you both.

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 28 2008, 12:41 AM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. Munged address. Casey

[casey_boy]

Guys,

I understand where you are coming from in the fact that you need protection for an old OS but I, personally, disagree with you. Ad-Aware SE is old and is vulnerable, the program itself does not get updated, only the detection database (and there's no guarantee for how much longer either).

So if you need protection for old systems, which obviously you do, then you should really be using another vendor's software. which sounds stupid for me to say on a Lavasoft forum, but it is the best option for you.

However, if you decide not to, which of course is your choice and you want to download definition files from an unauthorized source (which again it is highly recommended you do not do this!) then please do not post the links on the forum. we can't possibly check the validity and so it would be far too dangerous to allow users to post the links which could be potentially dangerous tampered definition files.

Casey

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 28 2008, 12:50 AM

[Jaheira]

@MP50

To the person who wonders why people want an out of date file, it's because we still want to use Ad-Aware SE for old OS, there is nothing wrong with that. Also some of these free spyware removers are spyware. LS is a respected brand and would not do anything bad, i hope lol

And if you continue to use an anti-spyware program with definitions over two months out of date, it is effectively useless! Every single piece of malware created since the middle of May (and there's an absolute onslaught of scumware at the moment) could now call your machine home and AAW SE wouldn't even detect it!! And also, since AAW SE is no longer supported and therefore obsolete, it isn't even equipped to deal with some of the newer malware threats you could face. That's what's wrong with that!

I did a search on google and think I have found the file but this one is SE1R246. Some have said there was problems with SE1R247 or something, so this one is best.

As casey_boy says, downloading definitions from a 3rd party site is just asking for trouble; how on Earth are you supposed to know if it's legit or something malicious?!

SuperAntiSpyware and Spybot S&D are 2 well known and respected products that still support 98 and ME (Spybot still supports win95!!). This topic was debated a while back in this very forum when the AAW SE definitions files stopped working with 98/ME, and these two products were accepted as the best alternatives for 98/ME users. All the people involved in that debate and unable to upgrade to newer Lavasoft products have now sensibly moved on. The reason I check back here is to help out people in the same quandary. I myself am still using Windows 98SE and have successfully switched to SuperAntiSpyware, which is an excellent product.

@papajoe

I couldn't have put it better myself.I had followed his or her advice and installed SuperAntiSpyware, but it kept locking me up halfway through a scan. I had to remove it.

I've had no problems with the product. If it's locking you up, then I'd advise you to check their FAQ section to ascertain the problem. It's a well respected and effective piece of anti-spyware software that would be of much better use to you than an outdated and no longer supported product with a definitions file almost 3 months old! Just because you couldn't get it to work doesn't make my sound advice poor, just your judgment!!!!
This is a bit of a catch 22 situation; if you're the type pf person who believes using an anti-malware tool with obsolete definitions is safe, then you really need an up to date product to protect you and your interests!!

This post has been edited by Jaheira: Jul 28 2008, 10:04 PM

[MP50]

And if you continue to use an anti-spyware program with definitions over two months out of date, it is effectively useless! Every single piece of malware created since the middle of May (and there's an absolute onslaught of scumware at the moment) could now call your machine home and AAW SE wouldn't even detect it!! And also, since AAW SE is no longer supported and therefore obsolete, it isn't even equipped to deal with some of the newer malware threats you could face. That's what's wrong with that!

Yes I know that but it's better than nothing. Most antispyware programs can't keep up with all the spyware anyway. You could be infected before you get an update for it.

As casey_boy says, downloading definitions from a 3rd party site is just asking for trouble; how on Earth are you supposed to know if it's legit or something malicious?!

Well then, why not proved us with the last official updates? it won't take up a lot of space on LS servers. Anyway that was from MSN forum.

SuperAntiSpyware and Spybot S&D are 2 well known and respected products that still support 98 and ME (Spybot still supports win95!!). This topic was debated a while back in this very forum when the AAW SE definitions files stopped working with 98/ME, and these two products were accepted as the best alternatives for 98/ME users. All the people involved in that debate and unable to upgrade to newer Lavasoft products have now sensibly moved on. The reason I check back here is to help out people in the same quandary. I myself am still using Windows 98SE and have successfully switched to SuperAntiSpyware, which is an excellent product.

Well it seems that almost all are stopping support for 98/ME. So when there is not any or many alternatives, you have to use the last working software. Zonealarm did the same thing but I and most other people, still use the last compatible version. I have had no problem, just because it's not updated anymore. XP is the one that is targeted more so now, because it the latest OS. Oh and vista.

This post has been edited by MP50: Jul 29 2008, 09:05 PM

[Jaheira]

First of all MP50, I don't understand your reluctance to move on! There were quite a few us in this forum in same position as you several months ago. All have now migrated to other anti-spyware programs that still support 98/ME and provide up to date definitions. Not to do so is plain stupid. I know many people (especially those with basic computer knowledge/skills) like to stick with what they know, but sometimes you have to move on.

Yes I know that but it's better than nothing. Most antispyware programs can't keep up with all the spyware anyway. You could be infected before you get an update for it.

It may be better than nothing, but it's infinitely inferior to a supported product with current definitions. If, as you claim, most products can't keep up with all the spyware, what's the point of having one?! In reality, new definitions are released regularly (every weekday with SAS) so that zero day vulnerabilities are virtually eliminated.

Well then, why not proved us with the last official updates? it won't take up a lot of space on LS servers. Anyway that was from MSN forum.

Because the last definitions file to work with 98/ME is over two months out of date!!!!!! Even you should be able to appreciate how dangerous using a file this old is!

Well it seems that almost all are stopping support for 98/ME. So when there is not any or many alternatives, you have to use the last working software. Zonealarm did the same thing but I and most other people, still use the last compatible version.

I told you the 2 alternatives that almost everyone else in your situation has switched to. They are well respected and effective products that still fully support 98/ME. Using an older version of a firewall (as I still do) is a totally different situation as it doesn't require definition updates to function effectively.

Basically MP50, your whole argument is totally illogical and alludes to the fact that you're too scared to move on to another product that will protect you and your machine far more efficiently. I've been using SuperAntiSpyware now for several months it is an excellent product!!

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 30 2008, 03:16 AM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. removed insult at request. Casey

[Jaheira]

I really sympathise with you, because we all felt that way when definitions updates for 98/ME stopped working in mid May. But it really is more sensible, not to mention much safer, to move on! Geez, even the Lavasoft moderator said so in this thread!

A comfort blanket may be well and good, but it wont protect you against ANY of the vast quantity of spyware created in the past 11 weeks!

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 30 2008, 03:17 AM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. removed reference to deleted post. Casey

[MP50]

Well there is two other programs that I use as well. I would use them over that super antispyware.

Spyware blaster. It blocks spyware from entering your computer but won't remove it. It works with 98 and ME

Here http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

And Spyware Terminator. Here http://www.spywareterminator.com/

Spybot SD to.

New def Update are still available.

Btw I have got the ref files working from that website I posted. And blocked AAW SE from connecting to the net with zonealarm as well.

Here is a pic of it.



This post has been edited by MP50: Jul 29 2008, 10:23 PM

[Jaheira]

You sure you're not telling porkies?! All of a sudden you've gone from AAW SE with a 2 month old definitions file being "better than nothing" to having a plethora of anti-malware products on your machine!!

Actually, Spyware Terminator no longer supports 98/ME; you can use an older version, with the latest definitions.

All these alternatives were discussed and debated ad infinitum several months ago............

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 30 2008, 03:18 AM

Reason for edit: Mod. Edit. removed insult at request. Casey

[MP50]

You sure you're not telling porkies?! All of a sudden you've gone from AAW SE with a 2 month old definitions file being "better than nothing" to having a plethora of anti-malware products on your machine!!

No, why would I. You can't have to much security software. I was using AW SE with the others for a long time.

AW picks up things others don't and the same with the others.

As for the Spyware Terminator not working with ME/98 at least they still give you the option to download the old version, unlike LS.


Here http://dnl.spywareterminator.com/Dnl/confi...inatorSetup.exe

And this is what they say.

If you are using an unsupported operating system (Windows 98/ ME), you may want to use Spyware Terminator version 1.9. This older version uses the current database and provides comprehensive protection, but no further development is being done with this version.

This post has been edited by MP50: Jul 30 2008, 12:24 AM

[casey_boy]

Guys,

I'm going to close this topic now.

These are the facts, it doesn't matter how you look at them.

Lavasoft has stopped supporting Ad-Aware SE.
Definitions for Ad-Aware SE are going to stop.
Older systems cannot run Ad-Aware 2008, so should change to a different vendor's software.
Running SE is dangerous, just because definition updates are still be given, program updates are not.

So, if you choose to ignore all the sound advice from users and Lavasoft, that is your choice but is foolish. Please do not try to start this topic again, I will close it unless you can justify re-opening.

I have had to re-read and edit all of your posts because of people not liking how you have talked to each other. Please read the forum rules about posting. This is a discussion forum and we do not tolerate abuse, how ever light hearted it may be. Please be considerate and save me the time editing all your posts!

Casey

This post has been edited by casey_boy: Jul 30 2008, 03:20 AM