How is Adaware 2008 personal compared to Superantispyware free edition? Options

[Daniel2000]

My friend has Adaware 2007 and she is looking to get either SAS or Adaware 2008. She has an infection we don't know which one yet. How does Adaware 2008 stack up next to SAS??? She has been a long time Adaware fan but she also heard good reviews on SAS. Can you help her decide on which is better to clean her system???

[Pierre67]

Welcome. I run both so what one misses the other picks up. I have found that both are as good as one another.

[Raziel v. Nosgot...]

Hi
same here.
both are running fine.
Cheerio
Raziel

[Daniel2000]

She only has a bit over 150 mb of ram.

[Pierre67]

In that case I would go for SAS as AAW 2008 chews up quite a bit of ram.

[Txnnok]

I would vote for Adaware. Friday I ran both at the same Adare caught 34, SAS caught looks like 5 with a total of 8 that means 3 that werent a threat. Also Adaware caught a virus on my computer and SAS didnt pause over the file as it was scanning. I just learned of SAS the other day, I was reading an article about adaware and say it was rated the same, but after testing it. It does hold a candle to Adaware. The free version of sas claims to catch trojans,Id say that was it failed. The new driver that adaware uses has me impressed . My av by bitdefender didnt even see the trojan either .


SUPERAntiSpyware Scan Log
http://www.superantispyware.com

Generated 06/06/2008 at 07:41 PM

Application Version : 4.15.1000

Core Rules Database Version : 3472
Trace Rules Database Version: 1463

Scan type : Complete Scan
Total Scan Time : 00:45:21

Memory items scanned : 526
Memory threats detected : 0
Registry items scanned : 5870
Registry threats detected : 0
File items scanned : 20633
File threats detected : 5

Adware.Tracking Cookie
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C:\Users\maceman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\@videoegg.adbureau[2].txt
C:\Users\maceman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\@specificclick[2].txt
C:\Users\maceman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\@dynamic.media.adrevolver[2].txt
C:\Users\maceman\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\@questionmarket[1].txt
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Ad-Aware Build
Log File Created on: 2008-06-06 20:23:40
Using Definitions File: C:\ProgramData\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\core.aawdef
Computer name: -PC
Name of user performing scan: SYSTEM

System information
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Number of processors: 2
Processor type: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+
Memory Available: 54%
Total Physical Memory: -807854080 Bytes
Available Physical Memory: 1859080192 Bytes
Total Page File Size: 9697263616 Bytes
Available On Page File: 7863599104 Bytes
Total Virtual Memory: 2147352576 Bytes
Available Virtual Memory: 1806643200 Bytes
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)

Ad-Aware Settings
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Skipping files larger than 15000 kB
Ignoring infections with lower TAI than: 3


Extended Ad-Aware Settings
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Unloading known modules during scan
Reanalyzing results after scanning before displaying results
Trying to unload modules prior to removal
Let Windows remove files currently in use at next reboot
Removing quarantined objects after restore
Deactivating Ad-Watch during scans
Writeprotecting system files after repairs
Include info about ignored objects in log file
Including basic settings in log file
Including advanced settings in log file
Including user and computer name in log file
Notify when Definitions File is outdated
Backing up current definitions file before updating
Create and save WebUpdate log file
Dumping details about unhandled exceptions to disk
Extended engine is to be used while scanning
Extended engine heurestic is enabled

Databaseinfo
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Version number: 89
Build Number: 0
Build Date and Time: 2008/06/04 05:30:41

Scan Statistics
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Method: Full
Scan tracking cookies.............................: On
Scan ADS filestreams..............................: On

Item Scanned: 264399
Infections Detected: 34
Infections Ignored: 4

Scan detailed statistics
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Type Critical Total
Process Scan....: 0 0
Registry Scan...: 0 0
Registry PE Scan: 0 0
Hosts File Scan.: 0 0
File Scan.......: 0 0
Folder Scan.....: 0 0
LSP Scan........: 0 0
ADS Scan........: 0 0
Cookie Scan.....: 34 34
File Hash Scan..: 0 0

Infections Found
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Family Id: 725 Name: Tracking Cookie Category: DataMiner TAI:3
Item Id: 600000085 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat questionmarket.com ES /
Item Id: 600000085 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat questionmarket.com CS1 /
Item Id: 600000179 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat atdmt.com AA002 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net GUID /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE0 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE1 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE2 /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com B1L2 /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com B1L2S /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com BLAKR /
Item Id: 600000386 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat www.newegg.com NSC_xxx.ofxfhh.dpn-WJQ /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net dmc /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net dmk /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net smc /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net smk /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net dmp /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net smdmp /
Item Id: 600000085 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat questionmarket.com ES /
Item Id: 600000085 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat questionmarket.com CS1 /
Item Id: 600000179 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat atdmt.com AA002 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net GUID /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE0 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE1 /
Item Id: 600000304 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat videoegg.adbureau.net LE2 /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com B1L2 /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com B1L2S /
Item Id: 600000201 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat dynamic.media.adrevolver.com BLAKR /
Item Id: 600000386 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat www.newegg.com NSC_xxx.ofxfhh.dpn-WJQ /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\\index.dat specificclick.net dmc /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\\index.dat specificclick.net dmk /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\\index.dat specificclick.net smc /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net smk /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net dmp /
Item Id: 600000073 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat specificclick.net smdmp /

Items Ignored During Scan
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Family Id: 725 Name: Tracking Cookie Category: DataMiner TAI:3
Item Id: 600000112 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\index.dat live365.com SaneID /
Item Id: 600000112 Value: Browser: Internet Explorer Cookie: C:\Users\\Cookies\index.dat live365.com SaneID /
Family Id: 9999 Name: MRU Object Category: MRU Object TAI:0
Item Id: 1 Value: MRU Path: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent Count: 117
Item Id: 3 Value: MRU Registry Key: S-1-5-21-3239403915-2948257749-1860765979-1000\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TypedURLs Count: 3
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[Daniel2000]

How much more RAM does 2008 free editon take up compared to 2007 free edition and SAS free edition???

This post has been edited by Daniel2000: Jun 9 2008, 06:02 AM

[Txnnok]

OK, TM base 1.51 ram, proc. 8%,other prog1600ram and 1core5%>2core9%,I use vista so I am almost always using a gig of ram.


Adaware prestart, different moniter1656>1795max, task manager 1.64>1.74, processor avg 12%to21% spike max 59% different moniter 1core avg15%>2core 23% max1c60>2c64

SAS-diff moniter 1631>1723max, tm-1.63>1.68, processor avg TM39>54 max 77 , diff mon 1c43>2core68 max 1core58>84


The sas uses a little less ram, but a lot more power is used in the processor. This tells me that sas is working the computer harder and doing less. I see sas sucking my systems resources continually causing spikes on my graphs. Were as adaware spikes at the start then averages out and stays steady, they both spike at the big files, but sas really pegs out.

Here's an analogy>Think of it as a person or runner needing blood to parts of the body with 2 hearts(lol)processor, the blood is the ram. 1st runner sas is using less blood, but the two hearts are pumping harder to get the work done
2ndrunner> adaware is using more blood, but the two hearts arent working as hard
which system do you think will break down faster? I'm not getting into the brain and going over board, its just a simple comparison even thought this is a bad comparison.
Im tired and its late here. I'm about 10 minutes from logging

Just cause it uses a little less ram means that it isnt mean anything. I've got 4 gigs and I never use all of it,not ever. I do however max on my processors and have to wait for them to catch up, If i have to much stuff going. I could fix it by getting a bigger one and my computer would hardly ever stall. Like a 3ghz would be sweet, my computer would fly. I would have to bolt it to the desk to keep it down.
How much ram are you using in yours and what's you processor?

Just saw you were asking about the 2007 to,sorry cant help ya there. I'm not reinstalling that out dated software for a ram test.
Read through this review its the best one I found yet and not all one sided to adaware,has lots of comparisons and explains a bunch of things
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2307220,00.asp

This post has been edited by Txnnok: Jun 9 2008, 07:15 AM

[Urbane.Tiger]

I wont let SAS near my systems

In March 2008 SAS was recommended by a so called expert to cure an infection. I guess killing the host is one method of doing that, it's what SAS did to one of my systems, totally wrecked it, necessitating complete rebuild on freshly formatted disk.

My friend has Adaware 2007 and she is looking to get either SAS or Adaware 2008. She has an infection we don't know which one yet. How does Adaware 2008 stack up next to SAS??? She has been a long time Adaware fan but she also heard good reviews on SAS. Can you help her decide on which is better to clean her system???

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[Txnnok]

I wont let SAS near my systems

In March 2008 SAS was recommended by a so called expert to cure an infection. I guess killing the host is one method of doing that, it's what SAS did to one of my systems, totally wrecked it, necessitating complete rebuild on freshly formatted disk.
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We'll I hope you read my posts up there they give a pretty goo explanation, but if that isnt' enough I have a new one for you.

I took a nap earlier today and while I was asleep my daughter got on my computer. Yea, you can take it from there infection. I couldnt find it I could just see it, sending out info with no programs running. Anyway after about an hour of searching I gave up and decided to restore my computer from a backup. Keeping a fresh backup is your best defense against viruses, not just for if you some how screw up the programming from playing. Well getting back, not in the mood to play so I restore, while restarting one of my antivirus programs it picks up a virus from SAS. Let me repeat the virus is from Super Anti Spyware from a backup. This opens a new question if you caught on to that.
Why didnt the antivirus get it from before the backup? pay attention

I recently started doing a beta program for Bitdefender (BD total security suite 2009). I had shutdown my antivirus and firewall while downloading BD. I also decided to try SAS, having never have used it before I thought I would test it to. I installed SAS (security still down) and ran an update and scanned. I then decided to install BD, but I wanted a backup first before I did, so I made one.

When my computer restored and my anitvirus initialized along with SAS's programming, Boom it got it. This doesnt mean it was the SAS people that installed a virus on it, but a hacker can get into the flaws of a website so when you download, your downloading a virus. Take a look at the pic and see for yourself.

I have uninsatlled SAS and won't ever be going back. I think virus is harsh its a hijacking program thats embedded into programming that has access to the internet.

I'll stick to adaware. It's tried and true and has been around for years and the makers have the users best interest in mind.

[Daniel2000]

That is what we call a false positive. That is when a good program is labeled as something that is not safe. You can report this FP to the program's website and get it fixed. SAS is a very safe and reliable program.

[Daniel2000]

Does Adaware 2008 use the same amount of RAM as 2007???

[Raziel v. Nosgot...]

Hi and No
AAW2008 service increases from 588K to 140-150.000K during a scan.
Cheerio
Raziel

[Txnnok]

That is what we call a false positive. That is when a good program is labeled as something that is not safe. You can report this FP to the program's website and get it fixed. SAS is a very safe and reliable program.

If you want to believe that thats' fine. A false positive doesnt magically come up with internet sites to go to. I'd come closer to believing that sas was infected by a bug after the install. I looked at that sites internetoptimizer,com (intentionally missed typed) and my security flagged bad before the page loaded.

Regardless if it is a false positive I've tried to show you enough of a reason to use adaware. It doesnt matter if 2007 uses more or less ram, it's not the same program. The 2008 has been completely redesigned with a more advanced driver. It only uses the same GUI. If you don't want to use Adaware that is your choice. If you want to use 2007 thats fine too. It will not offer the same level of protection. These forums are for users having problems not for debates about other products, myself included. I don't see this discussion being meaningful for other users and is being closed. If you decide to use adaware 2008 please go to the support center and download a copy. If you have any problems during the install feel free to post again.