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#1 DDon

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:23 AM

I tried it for a few weeks, but it just did not seem to be doing anything? Maybe it worked in a way that I just did not see, but I finally removed it, installed 9.6, updated and scanned - finding 40 hits. That just seems more effective, or am I not seeing this right...??
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#2 CeciliaB

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:55 AM

Hi DDon,

What did Ad-Aware find? Can you post the log with those 40 hits? I think Lavasoft is interested in it.
XP - C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\Logs\Scan_<date information>.log
Vista and 7 - C:\ProgramData\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\Logs\Scan_<date information>.log

#3 DDon

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:26 PM

It always seemed odd that 10 finished a quick scan in 2 or 3 minutes, finding 1 item to remove at best, while 9.6 always took much longer I thought - and always found more? Ok, so maybe 9.6 only found 20 items...

>>> Removed items:
>>> Description: *adserver* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408737 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adserv* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408921 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adtech* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409018 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adserve* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409020 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *ad.yieldmanager* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409172 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: www.buy* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409113 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *wunderloop* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 599639 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *2o7* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408943 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adfarm1.adition* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409171 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *realmedia* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409139 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adserver* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408737 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adserv* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408921 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adtech* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409018 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adserve* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409020 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *ad.yieldmanager* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409172 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: www.buy* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409113 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *wunderloop* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 599639 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *2o7* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 408943 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *adfarm1.adition* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409171 Family ID: 0
>>> Description: *realmedia* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409139 Family ID: 0
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#4 erpguy6

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:24 PM

I too have uninstalled Ad-aware 10.0 and reverted back to using old but reliable Ad-aware 9.6 on my Win7 computer.
I feel that Ad-aware 10 was rushed (like finalized too early, too soon) and should have stayed in beta a while longer.

maybe I'll go back to AA10 when version 10.1 comes out later this month. but Ad-aware 10.0 just doesn't seem fully ready for prime time.

#5 CeciliaB

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:49 PM

Cookies are never dangerous for the computer, and are not important to remove. But I will ask my contact person at Lavasoft, when he is back in the office on Monday, why the two products have different thoughts of which cookies that are tracking.

Since Ad-Aware 9 doesn't have quick scan, you have to compare the scan of Ad-Aware 9 with the full scan in Ad-Aware 10. But since Lavasoft received a lot of complains that the scan in Ad-Aware 9 took too long time, the scan function has been rewritten to be more efficient, and with better detection capabilities.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:22 PM

Why do you say "Ad-Aware 9 doesn't have quick scan" as Smart Scan is what I usually use on 9.6. That's what I used for that log.

I had wondered if 10 was preventing threats so well that it didn't find much on scan, which is why I changed back to 9.6 - which found those cookies.

I had not realized that running AA10 would be a problem with me keeping Avast free anti-virus, so I guess I was lucky to not have issues. I think I will keep Avast and AA9.6.

thanks

Edited by DDon, 04 May 2012 - 05:23 PM.

From InformIT: "There are only two types of computer users: those who have had a system failure,
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#7 CeciliaB

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:57 PM

Sorry, I have started to forget the features of Ad-Aware 9 after using Ad-Aware 10 in almost 6 months (closed beta test started in mid November). But nevertheless, you cannot use scanning time for judging how efficient an antivirus program is. It is also possible that if you first use Ad-Aware 9.6 and then switch to Ad-Aware 10, Ad-Aware 10 will find cookies and/or malicious files that Ad-Aware 9.6 has missed.

#8 DDon

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:10 PM

Yes I understand that scanning time is not really an indicator, even tho it may feel that way. While AA9.6 may only be finding cookies, AA10 did not find much at all - and following 10 with 9.6 immediately - 9.6 did find 20 cookies.

Anyway, I am keeping Avast anti-virus so I should not use 10 for fear of conflict. Your site does not want against using 10 with other anti-virus programs, but in other threads I see that is a problem. When I replaced Norton with Avast years ago, the Avast program required that I remove Norton first - a good safety I think yours needs...!!

Edited by DDon, 04 May 2012 - 06:44 PM.

From InformIT: "There are only two types of computer users: those who have had a system failure,
and those who will. If you aren’t backing up your data, you’re playing with fire."
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#9 CeciliaB

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:21 AM

When I replaced Norton with Avast years ago, the Avast program required that I remove Norton first - a good safety I think yours needs...!!

Ad-Aware 10 installation program has a warning if another antivirus program is installed, but at the moment it cannot detect so many antivirus programs. Lavasoft is working on expanding that function to include more antivirus program.

#10 CeciliaB

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

With the new version 10.1, that has just been released, it might be possible to use it together with another antivirus program, see http://www.lavasofts...e-101-released/

#11 CeciliaB

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:20 PM

I was also informed that 10.1 have an improved cookie detection.

>>> Description: www.buy* Family Name: Cookies Engine: 1 Clean status: Success Item ID: 409113 Family ID: 0

This is a false positive in 9.6 and will be removed. There might be other false positives there as well, but it is too little information to tell. Unfortunately there is also too little information to investigate if there is anything that should be added in version 10. To be able to do so Lavasoft needs the whole cookie name and not only the part that Ad-Aware 9.6 reacts upon.

Note that most of the cookies Ad-Aware 9.6 removed according to your list are used by many web sites, it is very important that you don't start your browser, or any other program accessing the web, between the scan with Ad-Aware 10 and the scan with 9.6 if you want to have a fair comparison.




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